The Bed Sitting Room

morphia so they really are dead, 539 00:32:58,194 --> 00:33:01,238 and they're just staying moral to the bitter end. 540 00:33:01,322 --> 00:33:04,742 The chap who does it is staying moral by not killing them. 541 00:33:04,783 --> 00:33:07,411 They're just waiting for nature to takes its course. 542 00:33:07,536 --> 00:33:11,832 If it's possible, then, for all pain to be obliviated 543 00:33:12,458 --> 00:33:16,587 and the person is not suffering and this... 544 00:33:16,670 --> 00:33:20,257 You've got to take mental suffering into consideration. 545 00:33:20,299 --> 00:33:24,011 If the person knows he's under morphia and says, 546 00:33:24,261 --> 00:33:27,515 "I'm dying, aren't I, yes?" And they say, "Yes." 547 00:33:28,098 --> 00:33:32,269 Not yes, but he might know, then this ought to be stopped as well. 548 00:33:32,353 --> 00:33:35,356 I think it would be much better if he died. 549 00:33:35,856 --> 00:33:38,776 But the people who can still talk a little and breathe a little 550 00:33:38,817 --> 00:33:40,611 and look at a book or something, 551 00:33:40,694 --> 00:33:45,115 then they're still fulfilling the natural function of what they're intended to be, alive. 552 00:33:45,199 --> 00:33:48,327 And then of course there's this terrible thing 553 00:33:48,869 --> 00:33:53,541 where a man might be a pervert, a pervert doctor, you know. 554 00:33:54,959 --> 00:33:59,505 They are around. My own doctor, for instance, you know. 555 00:33:59,588 --> 00:34:01,924 - Are you talking now about... - My third arm went the other day. 556 00:34:01,966 --> 00:34:03,551 (BRADEN LAUGHS) 557 00:34:03,634 --> 00:34:04,885 That's roughly what I was saying. 558 00:34:04,969 --> 00:34:11,350 What about the point where medicine, in effect, is keeping people alive, 559 00:34:11,392 --> 00:34:14,436 by intravenously feeding people who would die otherwise? 560 00:34:14,478 --> 00:34:18,148 That's what I'd considered. I spoke of morphia as being the penultimate. 561 00:34:18,232 --> 00:34:21,986 There are other ways, you know. They give you vitamin potions, 562 00:34:22,111 --> 00:34:24,697 salines which, you know, if you've got a dying bloodstream, 563 00:34:24,822 --> 00:34:26,073 they keep running it through you. 564 00:34:26,115 --> 00:34:29,326 In fact, people can have blood coming in, going around and coming out the other end 565 00:34:29,410 --> 00:34:33,372 for as much as three or four, five, six months. It's all agony. 566 00:34:33,414 --> 00:34:37,376 If man was a great, wonderful, moral creature 567 00:34:37,418 --> 00:34:42,256 and had the sound of Jesus in his head, 568 00:34:42,590 --> 00:34:46,135 then I would be able to take, I think... Say that we could... 569 00:34:46,218 --> 00:34:52,558 We are so moral that we could take a decision for the good of the person who's ill. 570 00:34:53,267 --> 00:34:55,394 But of course it's very... 571 00:34:55,477 --> 00:34:58,480 Today, we're not quite sure where our morality lays, are we? 572 00:34:58,564 --> 00:35:00,858 - No. - Because Christians can be evil. 573 00:35:00,941 --> 00:35:05,988 BRADEN: Speaking of Jesus, how do you feel on the subject of God? 574 00:35:06,780 --> 00:35:11,285 Well, most certainly I don't think that this... Within the congestions of my mind, 575 00:35:11,368 --> 00:35:13,704 and within the congestions of the universe that I live in, 576 00:35:13,787 --> 00:35:18,292 I cannot believe that in scientific terms that I'm the result of... 577 00:35:18,417 --> 00:35:19,752 My father was sort of a... 578 00:35:19,877 --> 00:35:22,421 Mother was a vacuum and my father was an explosion. 579 00:35:22,504 --> 00:35:25,215 This is putting it down in scientific terms. 580 00:35:25,507 --> 00:35:28,302 I feel there's a great force abroad. It certainly is abroad. 581 00:35:28,344 --> 00:35:30,971 The mere fact that I'm talking across an empty space to you 582 00:35:31,055 --> 00:35:36,393 and you have the audio capacity to hear it all, is pretty miraculous, if you consider it. 583 00:35:36,852 --> 00:35:38,020 That's to me. 584 00:35:38,145 --> 00:35:41,190 You might say it was just a sound of vibrations. 585 00:35:41,273 --> 00:35:42,691 What was the question again? 586 00:35:42,816 --> 00:35:44,276 - God. - God, yes. 587 00:35:44,318 --> 00:35:46,445 So, in this respect, I think there's something abroad, 588 00:35:46,570 --> 00:35:48,989 which is much bigger than us. Most certainly there is. 589 00:35:49,156 --> 00:35:51,784 Whether it's divine, I'm not quite sure. 590 00:35:51,867 --> 00:35:53,577 Jesus is a fact. 591 00:35:53,911 --> 00:35:58,957 Whether the story of Jesus has mutilated down the years, I'm certain it has been, 592 00:35:59,041 --> 00:36:03,003 but I think in essence the man was good and a prophet, like Buddha. 593 00:36:03,045 -->