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gone, 658 00:47:54,341 --> 00:47:56,477 paved right over it all, and built new things. 659 00:47:56,578 --> 00:47:59,279 I mean, you can literally walk right over Nazi places 660 00:47:59,380 --> 00:48:01,248 and never know they were even there. 661 00:48:01,348 --> 00:48:02,983 - And the bunker. - Yes, the bunker. 662 00:48:03,083 --> 00:48:04,652 -It's long gone. -It like nothing. 663 00:48:04,753 --> 00:48:05,854 -Yeah. -I mean, it was 30 feet 664 00:48:05,953 --> 00:48:06,920 underground, 665 00:48:07,020 --> 00:48:09,089 and was protected with reinforced concrete. 666 00:48:09,189 --> 00:48:10,290 And now it has, like, a Volkswagen 667 00:48:10,391 --> 00:48:11,793 or something parked on top of it 668 00:48:11,892 --> 00:48:13,862 at any given time of the day. 669 00:48:14,061 --> 00:48:15,697 It is very different than the States. 670 00:48:15,797 --> 00:48:17,264 A very different approach. 671 00:48:17,364 --> 00:48:19,534 Well, there are so many differences between here 672 00:48:19,634 --> 00:48:20,535 and there. 673 00:48:20,635 --> 00:48:23,370 We are talking about the systematic murder 674 00:48:23,470 --> 00:48:24,839 of six million Jews, 675 00:48:24,938 --> 00:48:26,440 that's the official number. 676 00:48:26,541 --> 00:48:30,512 So it's just very different than monuments to soldiers 677 00:48:30,612 --> 00:48:32,079 and whatnot. 678 00:48:32,179 --> 00:48:33,313 0And what? What are you saying is different? 679 00:48:33,414 --> 00:48:36,250 All of it. We're talking about deliberate extermination 680 00:48:36,350 --> 00:48:37,317 over many years. 681 00:48:37,418 --> 00:48:40,287 Yeah, but wasn't slavery for, like, hundreds of years? 682 00:48:40,387 --> 00:48:41,556 Right, Isabel? 683 00:48:41,689 --> 00:48:44,826 Slavery lasted 246 years. 684 00:48:45,058 --> 00:48:48,730 That's 13 generations of people. 685 00:48:48,830 --> 00:48:51,031 Plus another 100 years of Jim Crow, 686 00:48:51,131 --> 00:48:53,367 segregation, violence and murder. 687 00:48:53,467 --> 00:48:56,937 It is, of course, horrific. I am not downplaying any of it. 688 00:48:57,037 --> 00:49:00,742 There were so many millions of African Americans 689 00:49:00,842 --> 00:49:03,277 who were murdered. 690 00:49:05,045 --> 00:49:06,947 From the Middle Passage until the end 691 00:49:07,047 --> 00:49:08,348 of legal segregation, 692 00:49:08,449 --> 00:49:13,153 that it goes beyond the realm of an official number. 693 00:49:16,791 --> 00:49:20,093 - There is no number. - I didn't know that. 694 00:49:20,194 --> 00:49:22,362 - No. It's stunning. - It is. 695 00:49:22,463 --> 00:49:26,701 And I understand you're trying to make sense 696 00:49:26,801 --> 00:49:28,268 of American racism. 697 00:49:28,368 --> 00:49:29,403 It is noble. 698 00:49:29,571 --> 00:49:32,239 But your thesis linking caste in Germany 699 00:49:32,339 --> 00:49:35,075 with the United States is flawed. 700 00:49:41,982 --> 00:49:44,051 Maybe it's not exactly the same, 701 00:49:44,151 --> 00:49:46,320 but the thesis of structural similarity 702 00:49:46,420 --> 00:49:49,289 certainly gives context for a framework. 703 00:49:49,389 --> 00:49:52,159 Right, but a framework is not a book, my friends. 704 00:49:52,259 --> 00:49:56,129 She is trying to connect the United States to Germany, 705 00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:57,498 but it doesn't fit. 706 00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:00,902 It's as if you're trying to "fit a square 707 00:50:01,001 --> 00:50:02,469 inside the circle," as they say. 708 00:50:05,072 --> 00:50:07,509 I would just like you to note for yourself 709 00:50:07,809 --> 00:50:12,079 that American slavery is rooted in subjugation, 710 00:50:12,246 --> 00:50:16,183 dominating Blacks for the purposes of capitalism, 711 00:50:16,450 --> 00:50:19,754 using bodies and labor for profit. 712 00:50:20,922 --> 00:50:24,726 But for the Jews during the Holocaust, 713 00:50:24,826 --> 00:50:28,028 the end call was not subjugation, 714 00:50:29,162 --> 00:50:31,799 it was extermination. 715 00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:33,801 "Kill them all. 716 00:50:34,134 --> 00:50:36,704 Wipe them off the face of the Earth. 717 00:50:36,938 --> 00:50:38,806 There's no need for them here." 718 00:50:40,542 --> 00:50:41,743 It's different. 719 00:50:44,111 --> 00:50:47,749 I say, leave Jewish folks alone. 720 00:50:47,982 --> 00:50:50,183 They're fine. They don't need you. 721 00:50:50,350 --> 00:50:52,152 <i>Write about us, Isabel.</i> 722 00:50:52,319 --> 00:50:53,721 I am writing about us. 723 00:50:54,121 --> 00:50:55,389 I just... 724 00:50:56,758 --> 00:50:58,893 I couldn't fully explain 725 00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:00,962 -what was in my head. <i>-You better than me.</i> 726 00:51:01,061 --> 00:51:02,931 Because I would have had words. 727 00:5