Sovereign

Get out of the vehicle. 601 00:30:15,939 --> 00:30:17,315 -He didn't do anything! -JERRY: I-I do not... 602 00:30:17,357 --> 00:30:18,858 -Get out of the... -I do not feel safe! 603 00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:19,859 -Get out of the vehicle! -I do not feel safe! 604 00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:21,236 He didn't do anything! 605 00:30:21,277 --> 00:30:22,946 -Let go of him! Stop! -OFFICER: Get out! 606 00:30:22,987 --> 00:30:24,447 -On the ground! -Stop! He didn't do anything! 607 00:30:24,489 --> 00:30:25,782 -JERRY: I'm not resisting. -Let go of him! 608 00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:27,158 OFFICER: Hands! Give me your hands. 609 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,159 -Let go of him! -JERRY: He's choking me! 610 00:30:28,201 --> 00:30:29,953 You're violating my rights! 611 00:30:29,994 --> 00:30:31,454 -OFFICER: Get up. Get up. -(grunting) 612 00:30:31,496 --> 00:30:32,622 -Get up. -(grunts) 613 00:30:32,664 --> 00:30:34,332 (officers talking indistinctly) 614 00:30:34,374 --> 00:30:36,793 JERRY: Don't resist, son. Do what they tell you. 615 00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:39,462 -(Molly barking) -(Jerry grunting) 616 00:30:40,296 --> 00:30:42,340 OFFICER: Come on. Come on. 617 00:30:47,178 --> 00:30:49,347 ♪ ♪ 618 00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:03,611 -(door opens) -BOUCHART: Joe? 619 00:31:04,529 --> 00:31:06,406 I'm Chief Bouchart. 620 00:31:06,447 --> 00:31:08,992 This is Ms. Reese with Social Services. 621 00:31:09,033 --> 00:31:10,159 REESE: Hello. 622 00:31:10,201 --> 00:31:12,829 We're sorry to keep you waiting. 623 00:31:12,871 --> 00:31:15,498 Can we get you anything? Want some water? 624 00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:17,250 JOE: Where's my dad? 625 00:31:17,292 --> 00:31:19,210 BOUCHART: Well, he's fine. 626 00:31:20,211 --> 00:31:24,007 He's being taken down to County right now. 627 00:31:24,048 --> 00:31:25,925 When can I see him? 628 00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:29,012 That's, uh... that's hard to say. 629 00:31:29,053 --> 00:31:30,847 I need to, uh... 630 00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:33,808 ask you a few questions. 631 00:31:33,850 --> 00:31:37,604 Maybe you can help me get to the bottom of what happened. 632 00:31:37,645 --> 00:31:39,689 Can you do that for me? 633 00:31:39,731 --> 00:31:41,024 Okay. 634 00:31:41,065 --> 00:31:44,736 Where were you two headed when you were stopped? 635 00:31:44,777 --> 00:31:47,155 -Home. -Home from where? 636 00:31:47,196 --> 00:31:48,364 Tulsa. 637 00:31:48,406 --> 00:31:51,409 You two were on some kind of road trip? 638 00:31:51,451 --> 00:31:52,869 My dad travels for work. 639 00:31:52,911 --> 00:31:54,454 What about school? 640 00:31:54,495 --> 00:31:56,289 I'm homeschooled. 641 00:31:56,331 --> 00:31:59,125 And your-your dad helps out with that? 642 00:32:00,084 --> 00:32:01,920 What about your mom? 643 00:32:02,587 --> 00:32:04,005 My mom's dead. 644 00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:07,425 I'm sorry. Um... 645 00:32:07,467 --> 00:32:10,511 how long has it been since she passed? 646 00:32:10,553 --> 00:32:12,472 I was ten. 647 00:32:12,513 --> 00:32:15,391 So it's just you and your dad now? 648 00:32:16,768 --> 00:32:18,061 Your father, 649 00:32:18,102 --> 00:32:22,774 has, uh, he ever been violent towards you? 650 00:32:22,815 --> 00:32:24,067 No. 651 00:32:24,108 --> 00:32:28,112 Any problems with drugs, alcohol? 652 00:32:29,447 --> 00:32:31,074 Any other issues? 653 00:32:31,115 --> 00:32:32,533 What do you mean? 654 00:32:33,743 --> 00:32:36,037 Um, you said he travels for work. 655 00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:38,915 Does he leave you alone for long periods? 656 00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:40,333 -No. -Okay. 657 00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:43,086 Does he leave you with plenty of food in the house? 658 00:32:43,127 --> 00:32:44,420 We have enough. 659 00:32:44,462 --> 00:32:45,922 REESE: What about his mental state? 660 00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:49,050 Does he ever act agitated or strange? 661 00:32:49,634 --> 00:32:53,930 We found some weapons in the van you were driving. 662 00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:55,890 Now, given your dad's priors, 663 00:32:55,932 --> 00:32:58,101 did you know that it's against the law for him 664 00:32:58,142 --> 00:33:00,144 to even own a firearm? 665 00:33:01,396 --> 00:33:05,650 Found some other materials, some letters. Uh... 666 00:33:06,651 --> 00:33:09,362 It sounds to me like your dad 667 00:33:09,404 --> 00:33:12,115 doesn't like the government very much. 668 00:33:12,949 --> 00:33:15,994 He has some interesting ideas. 669 00:33:16,035 --> 00:33:17,996 First off, uh... 670 00:33:18,037 --> 00:33:20,123 what's a straw man? 671 00:33:21,541 --> 00:33:24,127 A straw man is like... 672 00:33:24,168 --> 00:33:25,878 A straw man is... 673 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,923 -Everyone has a straw man. -Okay. 674 00:33:28,965 --> 00:33:30,925 And, you know, the