The Mystery of Marilyn Monroe: The Unheard Tapes

593 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,280 "I don't have anybody." 594 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,000 "I'm a waif." 595 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:13,480 [reporter 2] Marilyn, all we know in New York 596 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,520 is that you and Joe DiMaggio are friends at a distance. 597 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,960 How great a distance? 598 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,320 Well, we haven't seen each other. 599 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,360 [reporter 2] Do you hear from each other? Do you write or talk? 600 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,800 -Um, I'd rather not answer. -[reporter 2] All right, fine. 601 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000 [emotive music playing] 602 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,680 [Marilyn] Well, when I was put in the orphans' home, 603 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,480 they pulled me, and I kept crying and screaming, "I'm not an orphan." 604 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,040 I called every woman I would see, I'd say, "There's a mama." 605 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,880 If I would see a man, I'd say, "There's a daddy." 606 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,800 [woman] I don't think I have really too much to say about it except 607 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,000 I… I liked her, and… 608 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,360 and we'd talk a lot. 609 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,320 [Anthony] Right. 610 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,080 [Feury] I was at the Strasbergs' parties with her a lot. 611 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,840 [Anthony] Did you see her in the time of her deterioration, 612 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,760 which was the last year or so. Did you-- 613 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,920 [Feury] She… she seemed a little bit, um… 614 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,240 She seemed concerned about, uh, 615 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,120 you know, like childhood memories of… 616 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,880 of being molested as a child, things like that. 617 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,720 [Anthony] Talked about it as late as that? 618 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,800 [Feury] She talked about that, I remember. 619 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,800 She felt that she had avoided… 620 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,280 That she knew people who were psychotic from such episodes, 621 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,360 and she felt that at least she'd survived that. 622 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,320 [Anthony] Hmm. 623 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,440 Marilyn said, "It did happen." 624 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,680 "I knew it was wrong." 625 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,120 "But to tell you the truth, I think I was more curious than anything else." 626 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,120 "Nobody ever told me about sex." 627 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,880 "And frankly, I never did think it was all that important." 628 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,600 -[tape clicks] -[man] I was a very, very close friend. 629 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,360 And was friends to the end. 630 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,000 [soft haunting music playing] 631 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,840 [Henry] She wanted to know her father so badly. 632 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,080 I remember a party and this game we'd play. 633 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,000 Everybody said what they'd want most in the world. 634 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,080 [Anthony] Yes. 635 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,480 [Henry] And she said she'd want to put on a black wig, 636 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,480 pick up her father at a bar, 637 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,400 have him make love to her, 638 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,240 and then she'd say, "Well, how does it feel now to have a daughter 639 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,600 that you've made love to?" 640 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:14,560 [Anthony] Yes. 641 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,200 [Danny] We all need to get out of childhood in one piece, 642 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,000 but if nowhere along the line do you get that sort of reinforcement 643 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,480 that you are worth love, you're lovable, that there's something in you, 644 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,080 that we're a good person, 645 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,720 what you end up with is a sort of emptiness. 646 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:34,160 [Anthony] Men, eminent men, 647 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,520 again, 648 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,760 powerful and important, 649 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,640 again and again, 650 00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:43,600 if there's any mystery about Monroe's death, 651 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,720 seemed to me to be central. 652 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,960 [tape clicks] 653 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,120 [Anthony] Before jumping in at the deep end, I wanted to know, 654 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,600 did you see her just after the DiMaggio marriage? 655 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,880 We were friends prior to the marriage. 656 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,840 [Anthony] Yes. 657 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,160 Many years before that. 658 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,040 [Arthur] See, my father owned half of Republic Studios at one time. 659 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,360 -So I grew up with these people. -[Anthony] Uh-huh. 660