Crazy, Not Insane

And so, I think she was the recipient 785 00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:38,667 of his need to 786 00:40:38,750 --> 00:40:40,541 show that he's a tough guy on crime. 787 00:40:40,625 --> 00:40:42,875 -And you said-- -Dorothy: Said that they might've been caused... 788 00:40:42,958 --> 00:40:46,999 -by a stroke. -Excuse me, Doctor. Can you answer-- 789 00:40:47,083 --> 00:40:49,958 Can you try, Doctor, just to answer our question? 790 00:40:50,041 --> 00:40:51,833 -Shh. -Can you hear me, Doctor? 791 00:40:51,917 --> 00:40:54,917 Yeager: And he was gonna put her into the mud because that 792 00:40:54,999 --> 00:40:57,875 would help his cause, and he did get elected. 793 00:40:57,958 --> 00:40:59,541 I would never say anything 794 00:40:59,625 --> 00:41:02,458 about Dr. Lewis other than to comment that 795 00:41:02,541 --> 00:41:05,541 I think her performance in court speaks for itself. 796 00:41:05,625 --> 00:41:08,416 You know, Dorothy paved the way 797 00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:10,458 for a whole generation 798 00:41:10,541 --> 00:41:14,375 of mental health professionals who followed in her steps. 799 00:41:14,458 --> 00:41:18,249 But she was a pioneer, and pioneers are often... 800 00:41:18,333 --> 00:41:20,124 you know, not treated well. 801 00:41:20,208 --> 00:41:22,625 I think there was an intuitive recognition 802 00:41:22,708 --> 00:41:25,208 on the part of prosecutors, uh, 803 00:41:26,041 --> 00:41:28,208 that what she had to say 804 00:41:29,875 --> 00:41:32,875 bore heavily on the truth. 805 00:41:32,958 --> 00:41:35,291 And the truth is not 806 00:41:35,375 --> 00:41:37,792 what some prosecutors wanted. 807 00:41:37,875 --> 00:41:41,833 She swallowed the stories he told hook, line, and sinker. 808 00:41:41,917 --> 00:41:43,875 Gibney: So when you were on the stand, 809 00:41:43,958 --> 00:41:46,667 the attorney on the other side, the prosecuting attorney 810 00:41:46,750 --> 00:41:49,041 -was making fun of you for thinking that there was -Yes. 811 00:41:49,124 --> 00:41:52,999 -such a thing as multiple personalities. -Yeah. Yes. Yeah. 812 00:41:53,083 --> 00:41:55,917 Or for anything else (laughs) you know. 813 00:41:55,999 --> 00:41:58,708 The local radio station made up jingles about me. 814 00:41:58,792 --> 00:42:01,083 DJ: The boys have written a song in Dorothy's honor 815 00:42:01,166 --> 00:42:03,083 and I hope it comes out alright. 816 00:42:03,166 --> 00:42:05,500 ♪ Hey, look who's on the stand again ♪ 817 00:42:05,583 --> 00:42:07,083 (country music) 818 00:42:07,166 --> 00:42:09,750 ♪ Back to defend her killer friend ♪ 819 00:42:10,917 --> 00:42:13,166 ♪ Got her psychiatry degree ♪ 820 00:42:13,249 --> 00:42:14,917 ♪ Hoo Lord! ♪ 821 00:42:14,999 --> 00:42:18,583 ♪ Now, she's on Arthur's side you see ♪ 822 00:42:18,667 --> 00:42:22,541 ♪ She tries to justify what's wrong ♪ 823 00:42:22,625 --> 00:42:25,124 ♪ Because his mother played with his dong, hey, hey! ♪ 824 00:42:25,208 --> 00:42:27,708 ♪ Yakety yak, Dorothy's back ♪ 825 00:42:27,792 --> 00:42:29,541 -Yeah. -Gibney: They were making fun of you because-- 826 00:42:29,625 --> 00:42:31,208 just because you were on his side, or because 827 00:42:31,291 --> 00:42:33,792 you were evincing a particular theory about him? 828 00:42:35,667 --> 00:42:37,583 How about all of the above? 829 00:42:37,667 --> 00:42:39,833 All of the above, you know, uh... 830 00:42:43,583 --> 00:42:44,708 Yeah. 831 00:42:44,792 --> 00:42:46,166 Members of the jury, 832 00:42:46,249 --> 00:42:48,291 how do you find in the matter of 833 00:42:48,375 --> 00:42:51,667 the People of the State of New York vs. Arthur Shawcross? 834 00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:53,541 Foreman: Guilty. 835 00:42:53,625 --> 00:42:55,833 Narrator: It took the jury less than two hours 836 00:42:55,917 --> 00:42:57,541 to find Mr. Shawcross sane 837 00:42:57,625 --> 00:43:00,375 and guilty of the murders of 10 women. 838 00:43:00,458 --> 00:43:02,750 It took me three years to recover 839 00:43:02,833 --> 00:43:04,917 from my three weeks on the stand. 840 00:43:04,999 --> 00:43:07,792 No one had believed a word I said. 841 00:43:07,875 --> 00:43:11,124 -Reporter: Do you think Dorothy Lewis let you down? -Don't block me, please. 842 00:43:11,208 --> 00:43:14,166 I have no comment on Dr. Dorothy Lewis. 843 00:43:14,249 --> 00:43:17,999 -Thank you. -(door shutting) 844 00:43:18,083 --> 00:43:20,458 Dorothy: What are you doing? What's happening? 845 00:43:20,541 --> 00:43:23,333 (whimpering) No more. 846 00:43:25,958 --> 00:43:29,208 Narrator: Was Arthur Shawcross crazy when he murdered his victims 847 00:43:29,291 --> 00:43:32,249 and consumed their genitalia? 848 00:43:32,333 --> 00:43:35,583 Of course. He had to be. 849 00:43:35,667 --> 00:43:37,917 Insane?