The Interpreter

660 00:38:02,347 --> 00:38:03,542 But she said it was a whisper. 661 00:38:04,048 --> 00:38:06,073 Well, now she thinks she can do it. 662 00:38:07,585 --> 00:38:09,019 Photo there yet? 663 00:38:09,087 --> 00:38:10,179 (Tobin) It's printing. 664 00:38:10,255 --> 00:38:11,313 Let me put you on speaker. 665 00:38:11,556 --> 00:38:12,751 [printer whirring] 666 00:38:15,126 --> 00:38:17,220 <i>(Lud) That's an anti-Zuwanie rally.</i> 667 00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:19,457 The man speaking is Ajene Xola. 668 00:38:20,899 --> 00:38:22,594 Look at the crowd. 669 00:38:25,336 --> 00:38:26,826 <i>(Lud) Look closely.</i> 670 00:38:32,177 --> 00:38:34,202 [people chattering] 671 00:39:07,812 --> 00:39:09,177 (Silvia) Any leads? 672 00:39:12,250 --> 00:39:13,615 Maybe one. 673 00:39:15,620 --> 00:39:17,384 C'mon down to Mexico. 674 00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:29,800 (Tobin) Is that you? 675 00:39:35,773 --> 00:39:37,707 Can you tell me what somebody like you 676 00:39:37,775 --> 00:39:39,743 who uses the word "diplomacy" 677 00:39:39,811 --> 00:39:41,506 like she's chastising me 678 00:39:41,579 --> 00:39:43,445 is doing at a rebel rally? 679 00:39:43,514 --> 00:39:44,948 A peace rally. 680 00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:47,313 I don't want to do this again. 681 00:39:47,452 --> 00:39:48,715 That's exactly what it is. 682 00:39:48,786 --> 00:39:50,777 What I'm doing is listening. 683 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,448 After that, after you listen? 684 00:39:53,691 --> 00:39:55,022 You're asking the wrong question. 685 00:39:55,093 --> 00:39:57,460 I'm asking you the question that you don't want to answer. 686 00:39:57,528 --> 00:39:59,018 Why would somebody take a picture 687 00:39:59,097 --> 00:40:01,623 and type the names of everyone in it on the back? 688 00:40:02,267 --> 00:40:04,929 This is a death list. 689 00:40:07,105 --> 00:40:08,869 The question you should be asking is: 690 00:40:08,940 --> 00:40:10,999 "Who gave me this, and why?" 691 00:40:16,447 --> 00:40:17,846 What are you not telling me? 692 00:40:17,982 --> 00:40:19,416 What are you accusing me of? 693 00:40:19,484 --> 00:40:21,316 How do you feel about Zuwanie? 694 00:40:21,452 --> 00:40:23,318 Never mind, "I don't care for him." 695 00:40:24,355 --> 00:40:25,982 I feel disappointment. 696 00:40:27,025 --> 00:40:28,652 That's a lover's word. 697 00:40:31,963 --> 00:40:33,954 What about rage? 698 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,198 Of all the people that I've looked into 699 00:40:37,268 --> 00:40:38,929 since this thing started, 700 00:40:39,003 --> 00:40:42,598 the one with the darkest Zuwanie history is you. 701 00:40:45,276 --> 00:40:46,903 It was his land mines that killed-- 702 00:40:46,978 --> 00:40:48,275 Shh. 703 00:40:49,747 --> 00:40:51,647 We don't name the dead. 704 00:40:55,586 --> 00:40:57,020 Everyone who loses somebody 705 00:40:57,088 --> 00:40:58,146 wants revenge on someone. 706 00:40:58,222 --> 00:41:01,089 On God if they can't find anyone else. 707 00:41:02,994 --> 00:41:04,587 And in Africa... 708 00:41:05,663 --> 00:41:08,257 In Matobo, the Ku believe that the only way 709 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,732 to end grief is to save a life. 710 00:41:14,439 --> 00:41:16,908 If someone is murdered, 711 00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:20,504 a year of mourning ends with a ritual 712 00:41:20,578 --> 00:41:22,910 that we call "the drowning man trial." 713 00:41:23,614 --> 00:41:25,708 There's an all-night party beside a river. 714 00:41:25,783 --> 00:41:28,514 At dawn, the killer is put in a boat. 715 00:41:28,586 --> 00:41:30,520 He's taken out on the water and he's dropped. 716 00:41:30,588 --> 00:41:32,386 He's bound, so that he can't swim. 717 00:41:34,459 --> 00:41:36,518 The family of the dead then has to make a choice. 718 00:41:36,594 --> 00:41:38,187 They can let him drown, 719 00:41:38,262 --> 00:41:40,162 or they can swim out and save him. 720 00:41:42,734 --> 00:41:44,429 The Ku believe 721 00:41:44,502 --> 00:41:47,335 that if the family lets the killer drown, 722 00:41:47,405 --> 00:41:48,429 they'll have justice, 723 00:41:48,506 --> 00:41:50,907 but spend the rest of their lives in mourning. 724 00:41:53,811 --> 00:41:55,836 But if they save him, if they admit 725 00:41:56,381 --> 00:41:58,611 that life isn't always just, 726 00:42:01,486 --> 00:42:03,716 that very act can take away their sorrow. 727 00:42:07,792 --> 00:42:10,386 Vengeance is a lazy form of grief. 728 00:42:23,307 --> 00:42:24,934 Why do you look away? 729 00:42:27,912 --> 00:42:29,971 There are some things I don't like to talk about 730 00:42:30,048 --> 00:42:31,743 and you call it lying. 731 00:42:33,117 --> 00:42:35,051 But not when you do it. 732 00:42:37,388 --> 00:42:39,288 I'm not the one under investigation. 733 00:42:47,398