Marina Abramović: The Artist Is Present

So this my loft. 419 00:32:00,068 --> 00:32:03,670 - This is Davide. Davide you know? - No shit. - My assistant. - Hi, Davide. 420 00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:05,239 You met before, no? 421 00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:08,129 - Yeah, I think up in the office, isn't it? - Yes. 422 00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:11,053 And you were the one who sends the e-mails? - I do. 423 00:32:11,083 --> 00:32:14,363 Davide is young artist. And good one, too. From Torino. 424 00:32:14,467 --> 00:32:17,450 - David-ay. - Yeah, not David. - Davide. - Davide. 425 00:32:17,735 --> 00:32:20,881 - So, how you doing? - I am doing fine. Look at me. 426 00:32:21,074 --> 00:32:21,941 Totally. 427 00:32:21,971 --> 00:32:23,971 If I can be of help, pleasure. 428 00:32:25,574 --> 00:32:29,024 If I can do something for her, pleasure. Depends what, but 429 00:32:29,701 --> 00:32:32,151 you know, speaking now, yes, of course. 430 00:32:32,796 --> 00:32:35,749 I can do only two things. Help, or be good. 431 00:32:35,957 --> 00:32:39,465 It's an amazing place, Davide. Are you often here, Davide? 432 00:32:39,570 --> 00:32:41,284 Yes, pretty pretty often here, yes. 433 00:32:41,314 --> 00:32:44,762 Yeah, I would, I would try to do the same, ya. It's a great place. 434 00:32:44,792 --> 00:32:47,128 Maybe she still loves me. I don't know. 435 00:32:47,946 --> 00:32:51,369 We will figure out tomorrow something. Tomorrow after tomorrow. 436 00:32:51,481 --> 00:32:52,664 And maybe... 437 00:32:53,327 --> 00:32:55,649 438 00:32:56,586 --> 00:32:57,696 put a finger on her teeth. Put a finger on her teeth? 439 00:32:57,726 --> 00:33:00,776 Yeah, that means to make something sensitive. Yeah. 440 00:33:11,544 --> 00:33:15,005 Marina, are you nervous about the show at the MoMA? Or are you not nervous? 441 00:33:15,035 --> 00:33:17,393 Incredibly. I'm always nervous even if I give a speech. 442 00:33:17,423 --> 00:33:19,835 - I sit in the toilet for days. - Good. 443 00:33:20,210 --> 00:33:24,009 If I'm not nervous, then I'm nervous why I'm not nervous. 444 00:33:25,953 --> 00:33:27,522 And when you are sitting in the chair 445 00:33:27,552 --> 00:33:29,573 are you going to move on the chair a little bit, 446 00:33:29,603 --> 00:33:32,150 leaning backwards and forwards, or you... 447 00:33:32,864 --> 00:33:35,008 planning on staying in the exact same position? 448 00:33:35,038 --> 00:33:36,862 Exact same position. Not moving at all. 449 00:33:36,892 --> 00:33:39,300 Just looking straight. What are you looking at right there? 450 00:33:39,330 --> 00:33:40,951 Anybody who sit in front of me. 451 00:33:40,981 --> 00:33:42,882 Oh, there's another chair in front of you. 452 00:33:42,912 --> 00:33:45,807 Yeah, because anybody from audience can sit as long as they want. 453 00:33:45,837 --> 00:33:47,018 In front of you. 454 00:33:47,048 --> 00:33:50,098 And it's between 11,000 and 15,000 people at MoMA, so... 455 00:33:50,567 --> 00:33:53,057 it's just The Gaze. 456 00:33:57,619 --> 00:34:01,691 Marina seduces everybody she ever meets. 457 00:34:02,184 --> 00:34:04,958 But that's not the case for me because I went through that process 458 00:34:04,988 --> 00:34:06,688 and now we are divorced. 459 00:34:06,752 --> 00:34:08,872 We are great friends, but we are divorced. 460 00:34:08,902 --> 00:34:12,326 So she would never try to seduce me, because we are divorced. 461 00:34:17,587 --> 00:34:20,687 With Marina, I always try to subtract the performer 462 00:34:21,979 --> 00:34:24,740 from the person I have a working relationship with. 463 00:34:24,987 --> 00:34:27,451 And I try to deal with her as if she was a sculpture. 464 00:34:27,481 --> 00:34:30,152 I look at her work as if it was an object. 465 00:34:31,481 --> 00:34:34,305 I try to be incredibly matter-of-fact with her 466 00:34:34,335 --> 00:34:39,335 because I don't want her "performance persona" to get into the way. 467 00:34:41,742 --> 00:34:44,919 Because with Marina, she's never not performing. 468 00:34:52,712 --> 00:34:54,612 Marina, you don't need this? 469 00:34:55,863 --> 00:34:57,099 You sure? 470 00:34:59,668 --> 00:35:00,801 He makes the wine disappear. 471 00:35:00,831 --> 00:35:04,418 I can teach you one that you can also do that's fun. 472 00:35:15,014 --> 00:35:18,380 I just meet recently somebody that so many people told me 473 00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:22,197 I should meet, I should meet, and that just happened in MoMA, and 474 00:35:22,227 --> 00:35:25,461 so we came here and had, uh, a little drink. 475 00:35:25,565 --> 00:35:28,252 And it's this quite interesting, you know, guy. 476 00:35:28,282 --> 00:35:30,550 He's a magician, David Blaine. 477 00:35:35,543 --> 00:35:37,674 He was thinking we can maybe do something, 478 00:35:37,704 --> 00:35:41,299 during that my... my, ... performance in