The Atticus Institute

304 00:26:11,034 --> 00:26:15,072 We started a program to investigate psi in the early '70s. 305 00:26:15,172 --> 00:26:20,242 Psi-related phenomenon. About five years after KGB conducted similar studies. 306 00:26:22,545 --> 00:26:25,816 I didn't have the highest expectations going in. 307 00:26:25,916 --> 00:26:28,652 I felt we'd already been down that road. 308 00:26:28,752 --> 00:26:31,642 And it proved to be a waste of time and money. 309 00:26:31,742 --> 00:26:35,156 But Marcus was a friend of a friend, and so I went. 310 00:26:36,993 --> 00:26:39,294 It's difficult to explain. 311 00:26:41,230 --> 00:26:44,032 But you could feel something... 312 00:26:46,002 --> 00:26:49,404 a weight, an invisible weight. 313 00:26:50,740 --> 00:26:53,310 The whole lab took on that feeling 314 00:26:53,410 --> 00:26:55,577 the minute he stepped through the door. 315 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:02,052 It was if he represented a challenge to her, to her power. 316 00:27:02,452 --> 00:27:05,189 Everything we had seen up until that point, 317 00:27:05,289 --> 00:27:08,092 everything Judith had done, everything we'd witnessed, 318 00:27:08,992 --> 00:27:12,763 it barely compared to what happened after he arrived. 319 00:27:13,263 --> 00:27:16,266 I assumed they'd run through the usual battery of psi tests. 320 00:27:16,366 --> 00:27:20,437 The cards, the elaborate devices with the numbers, but they didn't. 321 00:27:20,937 --> 00:27:24,505 They told me that those tests weren't right for her. 322 00:27:27,955 --> 00:27:29,680 This here's a way to convince anyone. 323 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,816 Easiest and simplest way to begin the demonstration. 324 00:27:57,073 --> 00:27:59,710 Now you understand why we've called you in here. 325 00:27:59,810 --> 00:28:02,246 That can't be accounted for 326 00:28:02,346 --> 00:28:06,549 through any known rational explanation. 327 00:28:06,649 --> 00:28:09,053 And she's able to repeat it with a variety of different materials. 328 00:28:09,153 --> 00:28:11,286 Breaking the third law of thermal dynamics. 329 00:28:19,362 --> 00:28:24,434 By the time the man from the Defense Intelligence Agency, Robert Koepp, arrived, 330 00:28:24,534 --> 00:28:26,437 we'd given up on our standard testing procedure. 331 00:28:27,634 --> 00:28:29,637 Well, we'd simply talked to her. 332 00:28:32,241 --> 00:28:34,409 It was so difficult. 333 00:28:36,312 --> 00:28:37,946 She knew... 334 00:28:40,349 --> 00:28:42,050 too much. 335 00:28:43,886 --> 00:28:45,322 Think of any object. 336 00:28:45,422 --> 00:28:47,391 - Something in the room? - No, it doesn't have to be. 337 00:28:47,491 --> 00:28:49,159 No, let's make it something not in the room. 338 00:28:49,259 --> 00:28:51,693 - Okay. - Okay. 339 00:28:53,196 --> 00:28:54,663 Draw what you see, please. 340 00:29:11,981 --> 00:29:15,417 - And what object were you thinking of? - A hammer. 341 00:29:22,658 --> 00:29:25,128 - Excuse me. - Susan? 342 00:29:25,228 --> 00:29:27,631 - Susan. - Henry, she... 343 00:29:28,431 --> 00:29:29,700 You don't frighten me! 344 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,169 - You don't fucking know! - Susan! Stop it! 345 00:29:32,269 --> 00:29:34,472 - What are you doing?! - Marcus! 346 00:29:34,572 --> 00:29:36,207 - Susan, calm down. - How dare you?! 347 00:29:36,307 --> 00:29:38,108 - You don't know anything! - Take her outside, please. 348 00:29:38,208 --> 00:29:40,244 Just take her outside. 349 00:29:40,644 --> 00:29:42,044 She had drawn a shamrock. 350 00:29:45,181 --> 00:29:47,251 Back in 1973, three years earlier, 351 00:29:47,351 --> 00:29:50,370 I had traveled back to London for my mum's funeral. 352 00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:53,310 I was devastated. 353 00:29:56,458 --> 00:29:58,862 Her family had immigrated to London from Ireland 354 00:29:58,962 --> 00:30:02,597 and she was very proud of her Irish heritage. 355 00:30:03,499 --> 00:30:06,603 And in her casket, she had worn the same brooch that she'd worn 356 00:30:06,703 --> 00:30:09,337 almost every day of her life. 357 00:30:11,140 --> 00:30:13,551 It was a shamrock. 358 00:30:14,511 --> 00:30:16,601 As soon as I saw that picture, 359 00:30:16,701 --> 00:30:19,680 I realized what Judith had whispered to me. 360 00:30:20,783 --> 00:30:23,351 "You weren't there." 361 00:30:24,921 --> 00:30:27,390 Which is true, I wasn't. 362 00:30:27,850 --> 00:30:30,992 My mother died the day before I made it home. 363 00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:35,132 And that woman... 364 00:30:36,432 --> 00:30:38,613 that thing somehow knew that. 365 00:30:38,713 --> 00:30:42,003 And how much guilt. 366 00:30:43,472 --> 00:30:45,075 She wanted me to behave that way. 367 00:30:45,475 --> 00:30:47,442 She wanted me to react that way. 368 00:30:48,844 --> 00:30:50,681 To humiliate me in front of my pee